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Arousal for implied Sex or "abuse" on the media

Started by radagast37, 11 February, 2023, 05:08:37

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radagast37

First of all I have to say, I think the only acceptable scenario where an adult and a child are sexually active is when both parts are fully participant, specially the child. He or she is fully aware of the situation and gives his consent to engage into sexual activities with the adult. This consent is specially necessary if the pair are father and daughter.

With all that said, I must confess I have a particularly fetish for TV series and movies where it's implied that the father is having a sexually affair or i, "abusing" his daughter ( and let's be honest, every instance in mainstream media where a man having sex with his daughter will be considered abuse or rape), even if sex is never fully shown ( and usually never is). Just the mention of the situation causes something in me that makes me terribly horny.

An example , on the Netflix movie Gerald's Game, the protagonist has a memory when she was 12 and her father tricked her into sitting on his lap during an eclipse and masturbates while she's distracted watching it. Later, using clever reverse psychology, he manipulates her into silence and never reveal what he did to his mother, brothers or anyone else.

In another movie, An American Haunting ( a horror one) a divorced couple has the shared custody of his teenage daughter and is implied that the father is abusing her on the days she stays with him. At one point in the movie the mother tells her daughter : "you have to get ready for your father. It's his weekend with you". Just hearing the woman says this words knowing what it actually meant caused me and arousal similar to when I watched a porno film, ( either regular porn or CP).

Is it Ok, is just me, others experience something similar?

LoneStranger

Sounds like you're reading subtext. There are many layers. It's like multi-verses. Yeah, I do that. Who's to say whether it's there or not? I love this site because we can discuss this stuff!

on the rocks

It catches my attention as well.  Though many times, I wish that story ended before act 3, when the shit hits the fan and the show/movie punishes the adult for their crime.  I often re-frame the story to being one that is consensual so I can enjoy the thought of those two characters having fun.  I justify that by assuming the story as presented is being told after the memory of those events have been contaminated with anti-sex and anti-pedo propaganda.  The sex is remembered as abuse well after the fact, when at the time, the child/teen was actually into it and the adult was super nice about it.

Seems to happen often enough in reality, so why not assume that's what's going in all these shows and movies that have an abuse story arc for one of the characters?
It's never so bad that it can't get worse.

TooLittleTime

I totally agree radagast37, that turns me on without a doubt. It's the sexuality and scenarios that fire me up. I don't need porn, even the implication of child sexuality works for me. Even more so because how often it really is just a reflection of reality.

I have always liked broken things.

BiPeadl

Quote from: on the rocks on 11 February, 2023, 23:14:27
I often re-frame the story to being one that is consensual so I can enjoy the thought of those two characters having fun.  I justify that by assuming the story as presented is being told after the memory of those events have been contaminated with anti-sex and anti-pedo propaganda.
That's what I...usually think when someone talks about some specific case of abuse. Sure, if it's the very girl that was once abused, maybe she explains in detail how horrendous it was that I can't possibly say it wasn't. But it's true... Even when the memories are of a terrible episode, those memories may well have been mocked up by what everyone pushes the person into thinking - the only truth, isn't it? That it was all terrible (which could very well not have been the case).

In that sense, by re-framing it (or just in the lack of indication that it was abusive), not an arousal but, I do feel... happy. As if my heart felt warmer. Like when you think of something good that makes the world better. Does pedophilia makes the world better? I like to believe so. If it's love... Love always makes the world better, even more when you can love someone, and by doing so, saving her/him from the crudeness of the world...the world in which they make you to be born, study, grow up, obey, work, buy, die.
So it really makes me happy. Not aroused, but, close. Emotionally aroused xD
Unfortunately this is pretty much the only place I can read about such cases without the "everything was an abuse and terrible" mask on... And if it was indeed abusive, people here will also tell.

JakeNewYork

I have a vague, hazy memory of a cautionary - probably heavy-handed - movie or perhaps after school special(?) from many years ago where it was not very graphic but definitely depicted that a boy was being put into prostitution and at one point I think it was heavily implied that he was being made to do make CP.  I think there was a moment where you saw him being taken into a room full of video equipment and looked worried.  Does this ring a bell for anyone?

MadHatter

There's an episode of the old TV show "Adam-12" where a guy is drugging young boys and using them for sex. The cops bust n and lift one of the boys out of bed. He's about 12, shirtless and wearing lipstick, rescuing him from his horrible fate.

In another episode, they pull over a car being driven by a guy who says the little girl in the back seat is his niece or something. Questioned separately, the girl (who's maybe 7 or so) says she's never seen him before. Mom comes running out, and picks up the girl, whose short sundress rides up exposing her panties.

In one more episode that I recall, they're hunting for a missing girl whose wearing some type of distinctive clothing. When they question a guy at his door, they notice a garment fitting the description, bust in and find the girl in a back room. I can't remember if she was tied up, on a dirty mattress, something like that though.

So yeah, awful crimes! Then again...
"A land was full of wonder, mystery, and danger. Some say, to survive it, you need to be as mad as a hatter. Which, luckily, I am."

radagast37

In the film "Gardens of Night" an 8 yo girl is abducted, sexually abused and used for child pornography. Her clients include men in positions of authority.

One of such clients is a judge who rents out the young girl's services, forces her to bathe and then tells her to put on a pink ballerina outfit. In the next scene, (obviously after he already had sex with her), she's waiting for her "pimp" to pick her up, and the judge convinces his wife she's a friend's daughter he's taking care for the afternoon, so she suggests she waits for him on their daughter's room ( because , surprise, the judge had three daughters around the same age of the little girl) To our surprise, one of the daughters is wearing a ballerina outfit similar as the one the little girl was asked to put on. The two girls look at each other as they (and the audience) realize what's going on.

MadHatter

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Quote from: radagast37 on 21 February, 2023, 22:17:08
In the film "Gardens of Night" an 8 yo girl is abducted, sexually abused and used for child pornography. Her clients include men in positions of authority.

Never heard of this one! Thanks! It's available from several sources, if you're interested in watching it. The little blonde is quite beautiful. I'm watching it now..not sure what to make of it yet. It's not cheery...
"A land was full of wonder, mystery, and danger. Some say, to survive it, you need to be as mad as a hatter. Which, luckily, I am."

NightTime

Yes I do get aroused imagination can be a great or terrible thing and this topic really fires it up

Whyme

You are one sick bastard! I really dig that about you!
:angel

MadHatter

"A land was full of wonder, mystery, and danger. Some say, to survive it, you need to be as mad as a hatter. Which, luckily, I am."

dragon

Quote from: MadHatter on 24 February, 2023, 02:50:20
Quote from: Whyme on 23 February, 2023, 18:54:13
Quote from: MadHatter on 21 February, 2023, 20:44:21
He's about 12, shirtless and wearing lipstick

:hot

1-Adam-12, 1-Adam-12, see the man...

Is it bad that I know the reference? Lol joys of grandparents watching old TV show reruns...

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radagast37

I found another perfect example. In one episode of the acclaimed Netflix series "Haunting of Hill House" the main protagonist Theo is some kind of psychic with the ability to see and feel things when she touches a person or an object. She works as a child psychologist and one of his patients is a 9yo girl named Kelsey. She has been acting strange since she was placed in a new foster home with other two kids and is having nightmares about a man she has nick names Mr. Smiley because "he always smiles but is never happy". She tells Theo he lives in the basement and on the nights comes to her room, as she explains it : "I hear a creek on the stairs, then my doorknob, then is in my room".

Theo visits Kelsey's foster parents' house to investigate Kelsey's reports. In the basement, she begins to touch the familyś belongings, using her sensitive abilities to find the source of Kelsey's trauma. Theo touches the sofa, and catches the infused emotion within it. She lies on the sofa and stars convulsing, covering her mouth and moving her pelvis up and down. Then looks at the wood above and notices the wood patterns shaped in a smile like the one described by Kelsey. When she gets upstairs, she shakes hands with Kelsey's foster father and, having touched his hand, confirms her suspicions.

Mr. Smiley is her foster parent. Every night he came to her bedroom, picked her up, took her to the basement and had sex with her on the sofa, he on top of her and she facing the ceiling. The convulsions she had represented the act of penetration. He couldn't abuse her on her bedroom because as stated earlier there were two other kids on the house. Obviously Theo alert the authorities and the man is arrested.

The most amazing thing is the creators could've depicted a regular child abuse story but they developed this intricate scenario when you have to gather all the clues to came up with the conclusion.

on the rocks

Gross, I hate shows/movies that popularize bullshit psychics because then real people will believe these con artists if they say some kid is being "abused".  It has happened over and over again; some so-called "psychic" has a "vision" that maybe some kid, especially one with like a disability like severe autism or downs syndrome, is maybe being molested.  So people's lives get ruined while authorities do their due diligence in the wake of an accusation; even if it was pulled out of some con artist's lying asshole.

And the only reason the general public is open to even listening to these hacks is because they are bombarded with all sorts of entertainment that makes it seem like maybe it could work.  But it doesn't.  It never has and it never will.  And shame on Hollywood for continuing to push this harmful bullshit on people.
It's never so bad that it can't get worse.