Random thoughts for the day... or week

[TooLittleTime]

1. A very sexy eleven year old slept in my bed recently. Unfortunately, I was not in it. Just my girlfriend was. I was relegated to a couch. That really made my adult female and female child rolling around having sexy fun fantasy blow up the next time I was with my girlfriend

2. I saw a recent video of Greta Thunberg last week. Damn, pictures do not do her justice. That young lady still has the face of a young pubescent child. Oh, and pretty much the body to. Sign me up.

3. Something that made me feel really uncomfortable, and I was sort of surprised it did. That same sexy eleven year old above is a very highly sexualized child. So much so, I am convinced either her mom's ex-boyfriend or that man's adult son got a hold of her some time back. There is more to that story, and all the evidence is anecdotal however it seems likely. I was just listening while she was talking to her older sister when she said something that stabbed me in a weird way.

She still believes in Santa Claus. This truly gave me pause. In my interactions with her, I have felt she should have full sexual agency. How she got to the point she is at is not really known to me, but she is obsessed with sex, plays with herself, and a younger me would have pounced on her long ago. As it is, it is very hard to resist.

But Santa Claus. That naivety, which should be a compelling factor to me, isn't. I would be far more comfortable with our intense flirting and touchy feel interactions if I didn't know that.

[on the rocks]

Maybe she's one of those kids who is in on the gag, but plays their part because they think it gets them more swag at Christmas?

But you're right, that is a stark contrast: a girl who seems advanced in her sexual knowledge is also still fully engaged in a very childish fantasy.  Perhaps those two are connected in some way. Like sticking to the Santa myth makes up for knowing what a penis tastes like and that's her way of holding on to childhood despite her possibly very adult experiences.

[TooLittleTime]

That is entirely possible, though the conversation with her older (15yo) sister seemed pretty legitimate, and her sister was definitely trying to reenforce the belief.

It was defintely that contrast that gave me pause. Not that it would make a difference, ultimately, if she was ever to... well, you know, be extra forward.

[stalker]

Weird, I actually think it's hot when they're that childish. Or they sleep with plushies. It's so innocent, and innocence is sexy.

11 years old. Absolutely perfect age...

[radagast37]

But you're right, that is a stark contrast: a girl who seems advanced in her sexual knowledge is also still fully engaged in a very childish fantasy.

If you can find adult educated people who still support the idea the Earth is flat you surely can find and sexually advanced girl who still believes in Santa.

[Lillab]

I also need to go into a Santa Clause rant.

I think Santa Clause and sex have a lot of interesting similarities. Society expects us to lie to children. We must tell them that Santa Clause does exist and that sex does not exist. Little children have limited understanding, and therefore are trusting out of necessity, and we wholesale as a society exploit that trust with deliberate lies. We act like the longer they hold on to these lies, the more wholesome their lives will be. Seriously? The reality is right in front of us all. The children who discover these secrets last are ridiculed and teased. They are often surrounded by people who play along with the lie, all to laugh at them behind their back. They are naive. They are vulnerable. The longer the lie continues, the more serious a breach of trust it becomes. They are the butt of a joke. These practices drive me crazy.

And yet, there is so much social pressure to continue the lies. If you are the one to spill the beans on either lie, you risk everyone getting mad at you. It's like walking through a mine field. Everyone is scared of these subjects around kids. It's madness, and yet the risks are real. I don't think people realize the extent of how idiotic these practices are. Parents lie to their kids, their kids find out the truth from their peers, and pretty soon, the kids care more about what their peers think than what their parents think. Next thing you know, they grow into rebellious teenagers. Fucking brilliant.

I understand feeling uneasy around this. If the subject comes up, do you continue the lie or do you risk the wrath of society by breaking the ruse? It's a messy business either way, and now you know this girl is walking around with this. I must say, 11 years old is pretty old to still believe in Santa Clause. I am sure a lot of people think negatively about this. Like I said, she is the butt of a joke. She has built a reputation of being gullible. And now you are possibly complicit in this manipulation. Lies and manipulation sour the foundation of trust needed for romantic connection. I feel like there are a lot of ways in which belief in Santa becomes a romantic turn off.

[on the rocks]

On the other hand, these institutional fairy tales we tell kids are real, like Santa, does give them template for realizing organized religion is equally full of it.  God is just Santa for grown ups.

[TooLittleTime]

It was a bizarre discovery. She lives in a split family, one half ultra conservative and the other very much to the left, and has to deal with both sides. Her bio parents are divorced and both remarried. I definitely get the sense she prefers the more liberal half, if only for the significantly less restriction put on her.

I never intervened in the conversation, but certainly had an opportunity to blow up the belief existed. I acted in self interest, breaking the belief could have negative repercussions from the parent I know her though. Not going to do that.

As OTR noted, I find it pretty easy she is just going along with the facade. I certainly knew before I ever admitted it to my mom. That is my hope in this case.

[on the rocks]

Yeah, same.  I didn't want to disappoint my parents.
Plus I didn't want to admit I spied on them stuffing stockings when I was about 8.  Like it was, "Whoops, i just discovered something I'm not supposed to know about."

For what it's worth, the truth didn't make me feel sad or angry or betrayed.  I felt like I had just leveled up. Now I was in on the bit.
And all these little babies who still believe; I'm clearly better than them.
Feeling more mature than your peers is super big at that age.