Alice In Wonderland busted by Germans

[TheVillain]

That's why we put a girl in charge.

Was that really why tho? 

[LateComer]

If these admins followed their own OPSEC rules they'd be free right now. Every time I see an article about the arrest of a CP forum admin, they made some very avoidable mistake because they thought with their cock more than their brain.

In some of these busts the arrogance of the admin was their undoing. Warhead for example made an error in the code of his site which allowed the attackers track the server. Ironic since his background was cyber security.

[Pat975]

No doubt in my mind LEA are here and monitoring / interacting.  But to gain what?

Nothing illegal happening on here. PSC is militant about not being a media sharing site and we actively clamp down on certain behavior.

As an aside I find it amusing we have a member with the initials are DoJ, which are also the initials of a three letter government agency.

[TooLittleTime]

Still, it possible to be ensnared anyplace. A LE agent could chat you up, pull you somewhere else on temptation of trading, pedo friendship, discussing details of past or current activity.

[ReturnOfTheChampion]

No doubt in my mind LEA are here and monitoring / interacting.  But to gain what?

Nothing illegal happening on here. PSC is militant about not being a media sharing site and we actively clamp down on certain behavior.

As an aside I find it amusing we have a member with the initials are DoJ, which are also the initials of a three letter government agency.

We have had users on here, who also ran big CP sites. Often with different names, but if they put together those dots already, it would make sense to try and be a trusted member here.

[LikelyHuman]

No doubt in my mind LEA are here and monitoring / interacting.  But to gain what?

Nothing illegal happening on here. PSC is militant about not being a media sharing site and we actively clamp down on certain behavior.

As an aside I find it amusing we have a member with the initials are DoJ, which are also the initials of a three letter government agency.

We have had users on here, who also ran big CP sites. Often with different names, but if they put together those dots already, it would make sense to try and be a trusted member here.

Not to mention that nobody ever believes we don't actually have some secret side of the site where we actually trade.

Besides that, though, you can't really discount the zeal with which some want to persecute pedophiles under the guise of protecting children. There was a website that was nothing but fictional stories that they seized under decency laws. On PSC, we have fictional as well as non-fictional stories. If you think about it just in terms of that, there's more than enough reason for law-enforcement to keep tabs on us.

[LewisCarrol_Jr]

For all we know PSC is LEA run. 

[on the rocks]

If it is, they don't pay very well to be an admin.

[TooLittleTime]

If it is, they don't pay very well to be an admin.

What?!?!? I thought the offer was coming...

[Moon Child]

No doubt in my mind LEA are here and monitoring / interacting.  But to gain what?

Anything they can.

Profiles. Data. Intelligence.

Because that's what you do when you decide something is bad, an enemy, a criminal. This approach is crazy and only makes things worse.

They should instead think: this is natural phenomena that won't go away. Let's stop fighting a war that can't be won and help everyone involved. Pedos and children alike. Only then will things change for the better. But that doesn't generate support or votes like hate and division does. So on we go, both sides living in fear. Pedos scared and parents scared. Nothing but misery to follow.

[LikelyHuman]

No doubt in my mind LEA are here and monitoring / interacting.  But to gain what?

Anything they can.

Profiles. Data. Intelligence.

Because that's what you do when you decide something is bad, an enemy, a criminal. This approach is crazy and only makes things worse.

They should instead think: this is natural phenomena that won't go away. Let's stop fighting a war that can't be won and help everyone involved. Pedos and children alike. Only then will things change for the better. But that doesn't generate support or votes like hate and division does. So on we go, both sides living in fear. Pedos scared and parents scared. Nothing but misery to follow.

Well, I wouldn't say it necessarily has to be law enforcement either. There's probably a lot of private enterprise that would be happy to sell access to such data and profiles to law enforcement or whoever else might want it.

[Moon Child]

Well, I wouldn't say it necessarily has to be law enforcement either. There's probably a lot of private enterprise that would be happy to sell access to such data and profiles to law enforcement or whoever else might want it.

True. That's likely most accurate. Private companies collect it (because they're better at it) and then sell it to law enforcement as a service. LE may also just demand or seize it if they don't want to pay because you know, laws. They're the "good guys" catching "bad guys" after all.

Data collecting is big business. Lot of money in it.

[DarkNeko]

Out of all of this a few questions still remain. Did they ever catch "Alice/Fenixx"? If they did, when did they? How did they? What of APSec's involvement in this case? What role did APSec play if any? If Alice was caught, I personally would like to see the pedo behind the computer, for curiosities sake.