Are you pro or neutral or anti LGBT, LGBTQ+, LGBTQIA+... (but without p)?

[jailbreakie]

I know that we're being avoided and look down by the LGBT community (not sure when the acceptance) but do you support them? Or you just being neutral or don't care about them? Or you have some issues with them?

Personally, i have no issues with gay, lesbian, bisexuality, trans etc. (even back in the late 2000s when i was a kid) and it's very acceptable where i grew up here (despite the LGBT movement was still small and niche back then before like 2017, really blew up in the 2020s). Me and my mom already knew that Freddie Mercury or Elton John were gay but we didn't care (fun fact: Queen and Freddie Mercury were my favorite band as a kid and my mom loved them). As for LGBT, it's very hit or miss imo.

If i have to admit, i've really lost my entire rock-metal-punk-indie-alternative personality that i built and established for 17 years due to one group of people related to that community i'm tired of seeing and dealing with (no wonder i hated modern rock fans and it's an unfortunate the rock fandom has become like this now). Funny enough, they're the only people [rock fans with LGBTQ flag, pronouns, MBTI personality, anime profile, Twitter-like personality on their profiles] who keep bringing up pedo, grooming, age gap debates that i didn't really see about 10 years ago.
Circumstances like that i no longer see LGBT the same way (i prefer 2010s LGBTQ+ before about 2018).

[Malaikah]

I used to be pro LGBTQ. Now I'm very much anti LGBTQ if you consider them as a community.
As a queer person I don't see myself fitting in any of their communities.
Most of these LGBTQ 'communities' operate like a cult with rampant internal discrimination.
Also, i see most of these people, especially the trans people who use preferred pronouns and go through medical transition as entitled lost souls.
And some of them are way too woke than an average cis gendered heterosexual man or woman.
So yeah i do have some issues with them.

[on the rocks]

Somewhat jealous of the degree of acceptance they've found in society of late.  Must be pretty fuckin' nice to have most people be cool with your sexual orientation.  Really fucking nice...

Whatever their flaws, I'm most concerned about the opposite side of things trying to cook up fear and irrational thinking about LGBTetc because it benefits them politically.  Like Meatball Ron down in Florida; signed a bill banning any city from lighting up a bridge for Pride Month.  That kind of shit makes me want to go to drag show out of spite.

I've said this before a few times, but I'm old enough to have seen the exact same playbook being used against trans people that they tried to use against gay people when I was younger.  By the same people, no less.  I voted in 2004 when Republicans put all these gay marriage referendums on the ballot in most states specifically to drive turnout of their anti-gay marriage people.  I watched all the thinly veiled man rape panic by all these idiots who think someone can't serve in the military or be a teacher or any of a bunch of other things that seem ridiculous now.  And they're basically doing all the same things again about trans.  Seems everyone has the memory of a goldfish when it comes to these matters.

If nothing else, I like trolling the fascists by being on the side of LGBT on a lot of things.

[Lost_Boy]

I don't have a problem with LGBTQ+ people, I only have a problem with LGBTQ+ movements. I believe that their actions are largely misguided and only cause chaos and alienate the rest of society. I also think that their propaganda is socially harmful and only confuses young people who cannot find their way in life.

I know that these movements are sponsored by various non-governmental organizations. I checked it. Some domestic and some foreign. They do not have enough public support to be able to raise funds on their own. Is this all western inspired? I think it's mostly true, but not entirely.

I know that many people agitating during various events, such as marches, protests, or LGBT "holidays", are paid by these movements and organizations and it is their way of life. These are the same people - they appear and agitate at every possible opportunity.
A large part of society has a similar opinion to mine on this matter.

I remember the times on the rocks writes about, when homosexuality was a great social phobia. I'm glad there's nothing left of this phobia.

[Rivers]

There is no unified LGBTQ community.

Anyone who claims to speak for all is just appropriating the brand.

If you support any of the demands that LGBTQ people usually make (e.g. marriage rights), then you can say you are pro LGBTQ, without necessarily having to abide all of them.

[explosion23895]

Y'all ain' never gonna have no allies if ya cant stop yerselfs from conspiracy th'nkin an' treating them folks like tha normies wants ta treat yerselfs. Y'all drank tha koolaid seems

[zack89]

Y'all ain' never gonna have no allies if ya cant stop yerselfs from conspiracy th'nkin an' treating them folks like tha normies wants ta treat yerselfs. Y'all drank tha koolaid seems

But I like koolaid.

"I am inclusive of ALL letters of the alphabet." - Norm MacDonald

[SilentObserver]

Somewhat jealous of the degree of acceptance they've found in society of late.  Must be pretty fuckin' nice to have most people be cool with your sexual orientation.  Really fucking nice...

Never thought about that but that's a good point.
I'm fine with the idea of the whole LGBT thing (other than being into younger girls I don't really fit into any of those categories) but like so many other groups, I feel like lately it's kinda gotten a little extreme and culty, like you better not disagree with anything associated with the movement or you're an enemy.

[hö]

LGBTQ is branding and not a community. Branding for a cause that seems quite unclear all too often and since to me it's unclear what exactly they stand for with all the conflict within that "community" and the bashing, hating and harassing among peers within the same I can say no, I do not support it. Not because I think it's a bad thing but because I think that what this movement once was got completely derailed in the last decade. I do support gays and lesbians and all the such alike - but I do not support publicly promoted chaos.

[Malaikah]

I don't have a problem with LGBTQ+ people, I only have a problem with LGBTQ+ movements. I believe that their actions are largely misguided and only cause chaos and alienate the rest of society. I also think that their propaganda is socially harmful and only confuses young people who cannot find their way in life.
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I know that many people agitating during various events, such as marches, protests, or LGBT "holidays", are paid by these movements and organizations and it is their way of life. These are the same people - they appear and agitate at every possible opportunity.
A large part of society has a similar opinion to mine on this matter.

Spot on

[Zepp]

The Pride-movement has evolved into a political ideology, just like with Nazis and Islam.  If you don't like it or disagree with it, then you are an enemy of the state.

[on the rocks]

The Pride-movement has evolved into a political ideology, just like with Nazis and Islam.  If you don't like it or disagree with it, then you are an enemy of the state.

Except for the part where the fascists inflict violence on their targets of oppression. 

That's the gigantic difference between the extremists on the LGBTetc side and their opposition.  One side resorts to violence far more readily than the other.

[Lost_Boy]

In our country it's the other way around. The people/groups of people you call fascists are not prone to violence. It is propaganda that creates such a distorted image of reality and people believe it. There are sometimes some provocations.
However, I have often encountered situations where LGBT activists used violence against various people/groups, generally against people who disagreed with them. I saw cases such as beating up a journalist of an independent station during an event, beating up a woman, or setting a dog at a man. Sometimes things like this happen.

[indeepdaddy]

I support those with alternate sexual lifestyles. As a admitted and commited pedo I understand how we each have our own natural attractions. As long as no one is hurt and nothing is forced upon another, let mother nature do her stuff. Be safe friends.

[stalker]

I support people if they want equal rights (and they already have them in the majority of civilized countries).

I don't support them, if they want privileges, or if their want their rights at the expense of the rights of others.

I don't support them if they act like fascists or a cult.

I don't support the LGBT political movement, and a dumb idea that every gay or lesbian or trans is a "LGBT person". No, they're not. My boy-dick-loving part (and dick-loving parts are generally gay) refuses to be identified with this movement, its agenda, and its political leaning. I might not be 100% straight (unless it's normal for a straight man to want to suck a teenage boy's dick, because I don't know, maybe it is), but I'm not LGBT.

In the same manner I refuse to be identified with "MAP Pride" movements. I am many things, but I'm only proud of things I accomplished.