Anyone here a Christian and feel terrible about their sexuality?

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Driver247

I was raised in a southern baptist church. To them everything that is fun or feels good has to be a sin. I do not go to church anymore because I believe god judges you for the person you are and have been not for the things you have done. As long as you do no one any harm and you try to make the world a better place you're good.   

I have never done anything to a child that did not put a smile on their face. So no I do not feel guilty for the things I have done with a child!!

Once you can get beyond the Morales of society and what you have heard all of your life you'll be able to see and understand you are not a bad person for loving a child!! 
Some of us just weren't meant for the so called "normal" we see far beyond what is forced upon us as "their" idea of living. We live within our own hearts and minds.

                    Normal is a Illusion
What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly

FindingRest

Quote from: Driver247 on 27 May, 2023, 15:29:00
I was raised in a southern baptist church. To them everything that is fun or feels good has to be a sin.

Sounds like it was a rough upbringing. Im sorry you had to experience that. Environments like that cause a lot of unnecessary grief on a child.

Driver247

Quote from: FindingRest on 27 May, 2023, 16:56:15
Sounds like it was a rough upbringing.


I had a pretty normal upbringing. What ever you want to call normal. It wasn't bad. The baptist religion is a strict religion. it does fuck with your head when you are brought up that way though. When I got old enough to be out on my own I was very confused because the world was not what I was raised to believe it was. Also I was never told anything about sex. I had to find out about that all on my own. I know my parents truly thought they were protecting me from the sins of the world but they actually kept me from knowing what I needed to know as a adult. Instead of my parents teaching me how to be a adult I had to learn it from the collage of hard knocks.
Some of us just weren't meant for the so called "normal" we see far beyond what is forced upon us as "their" idea of living. We live within our own hearts and minds.

                    Normal is a Illusion
What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly

FindingRest

Quote from: Driver247 on 28 May, 2023, 17:09:41
I had a pretty normal upbringing. What ever you want to call normal. It wasn't bad. The baptist religion is a strict religion. it does fuck with your head when you are brought up that way though. When I got old enough to be out on my own I was very confused because the world was not what I was raised to believe it was. Also I was never told anything about sex. I had to find out about that all on my own. I know my parents truly thought they were protecting me from the sins of the world but they actually kept me from knowing what I needed to know as a adult. Instead of my parents teaching me how to be a adult I had to learn it from the collage of hard knocks.

I get what you mean. Especially about parents trying to do what they think is best, yet ultimately becoming a hindrance to their child's progression in life. I'm sure there were some insightful lessons they taught you, but I think it's funny how uncomfortable parents get when talking about sex despite it being an integral part of our lives. Although I suppose I get the same way, so I can't really talk.

Driver247

Quote from: FindingRest on 30 May, 2023, 15:31:05
I get what you mean. Especially about parents trying to do what they think is best, yet ultimately becoming a hindrance to their child's progression in life. I'm sure there were some insightful lessons they taught you, but I think it's funny how uncomfortable parents get when talking about sex despite it being an integral part of our lives. Although I suppose I get the same way, so I can't really talk.


I have talked to my two oldest grandkids about sex. My grandson though thinks he has life all figured out and you can't tell him anything, he knows it all. When he gets older and comes and ask me why I didn't tell him these things I'll tell him I tried but you wouldn't fucking listen!!

My oldest granddaughter I have told her everything about sex as far as it being just as natural as breathing. I have told her how it happens and what to expect. I also told her that everything on earth has sex in their own way. So they can reproduce. What I wanted her to know most of all though is about boys. I told her the average boy thinks about sex every second of every day and he wants to have sex with every girl he sees. I told her when she starts having boyfriends and if he tries to get her to have sex with him, how you can truly tell if he just wants sex or if he really likes her. I said you tell him no. If he gets mad at you and says things like, if you don't do it I'll find another girl that will, then you know all he wants from you is sex. If he understands and continues to like you then you know he is a good guy. She is a smart girl and I think she will do well with her life. I still worry about her though!! It would kill me if someone was to hurt her!!! I also told her she wasn't allowed to have sex until she was 35!!! lol
Some of us just weren't meant for the so called "normal" we see far beyond what is forced upon us as "their" idea of living. We live within our own hearts and minds.

                    Normal is a Illusion
What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly

FindingRest

Quote from: Driver247 on 30 May, 2023, 17:25:48
I have talked to my two oldest grandkids about sex. My grandson though thinks he has life all figured out and you can't tell him anything, he knows it all. When he gets older and comes and ask me why I didn't tell him these things I'll tell him I tried but you wouldn't fucking listen!!

My oldest granddaughter I have told her everything about sex as far as it being just as natural as breathing. I have told her how it happens and what to expect. I also told her that everything on earth has sex in their own way. So they can reproduce. What I wanted her to know most of all though is about boys. I told her the average boy thinks about sex every second of every day and he wants to have sex with every girl he sees. I told her when she starts having boyfriends and if he tries to get her to have sex with him, how you can truly tell if he just wants sex or if he really likes her. I said you tell him no. If he gets mad at you and says things like, if you don't do it I'll find another girl that will, then you know all he wants from you is sex. If he understands and continues to like you then you know he is a good guy. She is a smart girl and I think she will do well with her life. I still worry about her though!! It would kill me if someone was to hurt her!!!

Well, while the grandson is reluctant,  your granddaughter seems to respect you enough to listen, so 1 out of 2 is pretty good I guess. Haha! Hopefully both will figure things out whether they choose to receive your instruction, or not. Although, I can understand your concerns for them, especially when you talk about how your granddaughter needs to be with someone that values her for more than just sex.

Quote from: Driver247 on 30 May, 2023, 17:25:48
I also told her she wasn't allowed to have sex until she was 35!!! lol

Damn, and here I was ready to commend you for looking out for her wellbeing, and not being the stereotypical parent. How wrong I was. Haha!

Driver247

I did tell her that she wasn't allowed to have sex until she was 35 but she knew I was just joking!! And I was joking!!!
Some of us just weren't meant for the so called "normal" we see far beyond what is forced upon us as "their" idea of living. We live within our own hearts and minds.

                    Normal is a Illusion
What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly

on the rocks

It's never so bad that it can't get worse.

FindingRest

Quote from: Driver247 on 02 June, 2023, 19:08:44
I did tell her that she wasn't allowed to have sex until she was 35 but she knew I was just joking!! And I was joking!!!

I knew you were only joking. I was trying to as well by being sarcastic. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding

AlexUnder

I've been very reluctant to join this thread, but since other members are being so honest, I'll comment briefly. I'm a Christian by choice, not by birth: I was an adult (18+) convert. I am not a Roman Catholic, so the "pedo priest" thing doesn't mean much to me: there are pedos in every religion. I am painfully aware of the disparity between my faith and my illegal sexual impulses. (Some of my impulses are legal, lol!) I've discussed this with counselors (all secular), and they agreed that my faith is the greatest asset I have. 

I could talk about this for hours, in tears. In fact, I do. But those talks are vertical, not horizontal. I'm sure we have many common experiences and feelings, but only He truly understands, even if He disapproves.
"And it's the same every year: seems that I remember it as something more, but
You know how children can grow so strange. I still adore you."

— "Tears at the Birthday Party," Burt Bacharach

Pedo4VR

I was a very devoted Christian. While in this devoted state I was having sex with more than one girl. Years later my activities came to light. I have been hated and shunned and not forgiven by my christian friends/family. I endured this for a long time. Once I discovered CP and found myself passionately enjoying a young girl getting fucked up her ass, sucking cock, etc. I determined that there really was an evil part of me that could not be quenched and I embraced it. Part of this was a reaction to being unforgiven. I thought, they think I am a monster, why don't I become one.

I stumbled upon blasphemy porn about 6 years ago. There is a video called, "renunciation of Christianity" that I watched dozens of times. I renounced christ and became a devil worshipper and have connected with dozens of other satanic brothers. It's been a strange ride for sure....

I realize that many people on PSC think that anything religious, and particular, any belief in Satan, is batshit crazy. I get it. But know that there are thousands of people out there embracing satan and perversion. It's an interesting area and I don't understand why people like me get off on being a perverted, evil fuck.
- AoA 1-18+, non-exclusive, peak 3-8
- Multiple paraphilias, including zoophilia & exhibitionism

Pedo4VR

I wanted to follow up on my earlier post. I made a post over a year ago that basically stated that someone could be a christian and a pedo, even a pedo that somehow slipped up and had sex with a child or watched some CP. There is a tremendous amount of grace with christ, but I think one of the keys is that the christian is repentant and trying to change. In my case, I repented deeply. My shame and sorrow was as deep as the ocean, my body wracked with tears, but many people would not forgive my past actions. I was viewed worse than a murderer for engaging in sex with a child. This was and still is the most hurtful thing in my life.

Many years past and I started to really get into CP. I loved watching videos of girls and boys getting fucked, the younger the better. I was unrepentant and relished my behavior. It was at this point my path diverged from christ.
- AoA 1-18+, non-exclusive, peak 3-8
- Multiple paraphilias, including zoophilia & exhibitionism

spugachyov


warminside

A good person (someone who believes in following right or wrong), feels guilty; the higher the consequence, the greater the guilt. You don't have to be a christian, you just have to be someone who can distinguish right & wrong, and "play along" with the consequences. If you are really sensitive you could feel just as bad for stealing something from a grocery store for the first time.

In no way am I calling anyone here a bad person, I'm just explaining why it is we do what we do, and think about what we think.

As with almost everything, there are many shades of gray. Here are some things to consider, they might make you feel better

- Did you hurt someone physically, enough that the person is no longer living?
- Did you do something sexual to someone else in a forced way?

If you did either of those things, you have every right to feel guilty.

- Did you "get off" thinking about hurting someone?
- Did you "get off" thinking about forcing yourself sexually onto someone else?

Sexuality is many shades of gray, and the "on" switch is a guessing game of your thoughts. Which thought is going to turn you on?

You are not a bad person. You should only carry guilt when you have something to be guilty about. Thoughts are not something to be guilty about.

Why do people enjoy doing "wrong" things? It's simple:  breaking rules which carry heavy consequences, can act as a drug - and thinking about it can be like "taking another hit" of that drug, especially if you enjoy it a lot.

Also, your faith is riding in the backseat for this. If you feel bad, it's not because of your religion, it's because you need to come to peace with your decisions. If you enjoy thinking about underage girls or boys, don't take that enjoyment from your thoughts.

Some of us are here because were sexually abused; some are here because they inherited an infliction. Some are genetically destined to enjoy girls & boys of all ages. Others are growing up in a world where age has no limits (in some countries, you can marry a 10 year old). And then others are evolving past artificial rules (like man-made rules), which do not align with right & wrong.

Consider yourself lucky to be awake, even if it makes you feel guilty. What you do with your "super power" is up to you.

And here's some icing on the cake:  I am Christian Baptist (up to 11 years old), accepted god and all that - got baptized. Took my life 3 times in 20 years and recently my mother goes crazy talking about the end of the world with some 5G emergency alert test that's turning everyone into zombies (I told you, genetically messed up people can be in here as well). She said there's nowhere in the bible that says suicides go to hell. And technically since I am still alive after those 3 times and my own mother thinks I can still get into Heaven (even though I don't want in), I think it's safe to say you have (as the previous person mentioned) a LOT OF GRACE from being Christian.  If you truly believe in your faith, just try not to take a life (murder) or take someone's mentality from them (rape). If you can stick to not killing & raping, you should be OK.

And also don't be stupid if you view CP. I'm sure there's plenty of other posts on what to do with CP after you watch it and want to keep it.
I'm not here to judge you, and you shouldn't be here to judge me. If it seems like I'm judging you, I'm not - it's not for you, it's for all of us. PS: I removed TOX - actively looking for female friends (no motives or trading BS; just chatting and being ourselves).

Pat975

Quote from: MomAnne on 07 December, 2022, 13:37:05
I believe in God.  I find the bible is a tricky book, since you can find any quote to support your position somewhere.  So I focus on "Love one another".  It is so important that we do our best to never hurt anyone.  And yes, that can be very hard.

Yes.  Because if you love someone you won't steal from them, hurt them, or violate any of the other laws / rules / guidelines.

Note that the Greek language has I believe six words that English replaces with "love."  Most of them aren't sexual.
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