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Man Caught With 58 Terabytes Of Child Porn

Started by piñata, 26 May, 2020, 01:31:15

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piñata

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/02/11/allen-man-caught-with-58-terabytes-of-child-porn-sentenced-to-35-years/ [clearnet]

How do you have that much? Does that much even exist?


Midamoto

That's worth tens of thousands of high quality videos, give or take. That guy must have been quite the collector.
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YuiNui

Quote from: piñata on 26 May, 2020, 01:31:15
How do you have that much? Does that much even exist?

Perhaps he thought the time was right to become a netflix of sorts. That or he's a data horder who just has very varied tastes!
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Matthew1914

Quote from: piñata on 26 May, 2020, 01:31:15
How do you have that much? Does that much even exist?
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Officers located thousands of images and videos of child pornography,

The news likes to exaggerate. In actuality, he had 58 Terabytes of storage. But, it was not all filled with CP. "Thousands" of images and videos hardly adds up to 58Tb.

Now, it could be possible if one is running a file server, allowing other people to upload and share files. But, that will invariably result in a lot of duplicate files and data as things get shared over and over.

Does 58 Terabytes of unique CP material actually exist? It is possible, but it is very hard to tell. The majority of CP is never shared publicly. Lots of people could have private stashes of their own movies and pictures. But 50Tb is quite a lot of material. That equates to over 20,000 hours of HD feature length movies.

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Midamoto

Yeah, I suspected something like what Matthew said. 58Tb of CP is probably more than what exists, save for copies.

Quote from: YuiNui on 26 May, 2020, 15:22:48
Quote from: piñata on 26 May, 2020, 01:31:15
How do you have that much? Does that much even exist?

Perhaps he thought the time was right to become a netflix of sorts. That or he's a data horder who just has very varied tastes!

If I one day create a CP forum (which has a 0% chance of happening), I will call it Childflix. (if any aspiring CP forum admin is reading this, you're welcome to steal the idea)
To see such overwhelming beauty where it is invisible to anyone else, that is the mark of an artist, not of a madman.

Andy

didn't know there was so much to be found out there

on the rocks

I completely believe that there is 50 times more bytes worth of CP out there then what I once had at one point years ago.  No doubt about it.  Based on anecdotes I've read about file sizes and video quality, a 'studio' like Polar Lights must have at least a couple terabytes on it's own. 

As to one individual having that much; it's a stretch (and clearly not supported by the article itself) but I think if someone has been at it for 20 years and has been rather careless about duplicates, I think it's plausible to accumulate that much.
Because this is news story from the US, non-nude content of children becomes 'child porn' if it is stored along side actual child porn.  So one could add a mountain of non-nude 'modeling' material to the pile and help reach 58 TB. 
It's never so bad that it can't get worse.

Enchantress

Quote from: on the rocks on 27 May, 2020, 00:58:30
I completely believe that there is 50 times more bytes worth of CP out there then what I once had at one point years ago.  No doubt about it.  Based on anecdotes I've read about file sizes and video quality, a 'studio' like Polar Lights must have at least a couple terabytes on it's own. 

As to one individual having that much; it's a stretch (and clearly not supported by the article itself) but I think if someone has been at it for 20 years and has been rather careless about duplicates, I think it's plausible to accumulate that much.
Because this is news story from the US, non-nude content of children becomes 'child porn' if it is stored along side actual child porn.  So one could add a mountain of non-nude 'modeling' material to the pile and help reach 58 TB.
Still, 58TB seems like a bit much. If I got a plugin to download every file on a site like Rindexxx, I doubt it would reach 3 TB. The only way I could see someone accumulating even a fraction of this storage space is if they've been involved in a CP production ring for 20 years. But still, if they were involved in something like that they definitely would've gotten caught before filming 58 TB of content.

This seems like a clickbait headline.

qasty1

50TB? Could be just one badly coded junior idol DVD XD

Quote from: Midamoto on 26 May, 2020, 21:00:28
Yeah, I suspected something like what Matthew said. 58Tb of CP is probably more than what exists, save for copies.

Quote from: YuiNui on 26 May, 2020, 15:22:48

Perhaps he thought the time was right to become a netflix of sorts. That or he's a data horder who just has very varied tastes!

If I one day create a CP forum (which has a 0% chance of happening), I will call it Childflix. (if any aspiring CP forum admin is reading this, you're welcome to steal the idea)

Chillflix and net?

on the rocks

Quote from: Enchantress on 12 June, 2020, 23:51:50
Still, 58TB seems like a bit much. If I got a plugin to download every file on a site like Rindexxx, I doubt it would reach 3 TB. The only way I could see someone accumulating even a fraction of this storage space is if they've been involved in a CP production ring for 20 years. But still, if they were involved in something like that they definitely would've gotten caught before filming 58 TB of content.

I'm thinking 10 years.  If a person has been collecting non-stop and was really motivated, they could have gotten 58 TB since the start of 2010.

Quote from: Enchantress on 12 June, 2020, 23:51:50This seems like a clickbait headline.
No doubt!
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Midamoto

Quote from: qasty1 on 13 June, 2020, 08:45:19
50TB? Could be just one badly coded junior idol DVD XD

:rofl My god those take ages to download!
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ThunderKiss

Quote from: piñata on 26 May, 2020, 01:31:15
How do you have that much? Does that much even exist?
Well, it's not impossible. Linux's limit of partitions is 60. This also means 60 hard disks, each of 4 TB space - that's the maximum size of a hard disk (not SSD) I have even heard of. He had 58 TB, which is roughly 15-18 hard disks. Considering some of the videos with Polly I recently found were at least 4GB in size and she's not the only girl out there with videos of her own, it's not that hard to fill 58 TB.
Frankly I'm more surprised not by the total size of his CP, but where the hell did he put at least 15 hard disks in the computer case?! My PC case is big but damn, it can't fit more than 8 hard disks, unless I find a way to remove the PSU and go without it. :lol:
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SOCRATES2000

Quote from: on the rocks on 27 May, 2020, 00:58:30
Because this is news story from the US, non-nude content of children becomes 'child porn' if it is stored along side actual child porn.  So one could add a mountain of non-nude 'modeling' material to the pile and help reach 58 TB.

They tried this with me when I got caught.  I altered the plea deal when I finally took it, removing all the 'extraneous' stuff they tried to add in.  Idiot prosecutor didn't even read the plea when he got it back, just signed it, so all that went away.  Should have seen how his eyes bulged when he realized I'd just cut the rug out from under him.
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LikelyHuman

Quote from: ThunderKiss on 12 December, 2021, 02:01:08
Quote from: piñata on 26 May, 2020, 01:31:15
How do you have that much? Does that much even exist?
Well, it's not impossible. Linux's limit of partitions is 60. This also means 60 hard disks, each of 4 TB space - that's the maximum size of a hard disk (not SSD) I have even heard of. He had 58 TB, which is roughly 15-18 hard disks. Considering some of the videos with Polly I recently found were at least 4GB in size and she's not the only girl out there with videos of her own, it's not that hard to fill 58 TB.
Frankly I'm more surprised not by the total size of his CP, but where the hell did he put at least 15 hard disks in the computer case?! My PC case is big but damn, it can't fit more than 8 hard disks, unless I find a way to remove the PSU and go without it. :lol:

There's a lot of drive pooling software out there that will make several different mounted partitions appear as one single partition. A lot of people do this with NAS boxes, so I assume it would be a similar setup. Most general PCs don't have that much room for storage, but a lot of servers do, and they're pretty cheap to buy used, and don't really need to be very fast just to offer up some network-accessible storage.

As others have mentioned, I bet that a lot of it is just a lot of very over-inflated and non-compressed multimedia. For example, if you take a video that was 4 GB, and then transcode it "lossless", you could inflate that video size to well over 30 or 40 gigabytes. Some people don't realize that they're not actually gaining any video quality when they do this.

And then there's also what Socrates said.
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