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Are you okay with AI-generated images of kids?

Started by Xedni, 10 January, 2025, 21:29:27

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TooLittleTime

Quote from: luvyung4u on 10 February, 2025, 15:57:53AI-generated pics of children and CP could be a very good thing. Once the AI gets good enough to be indistinguishable from the real thing, it will be much easier to produce the fake stuff. The fake stuff will be better quality and more easily available than the real stuff. It could potentially dry up the market for real CP, which is a good thing.

I agree. Their will always be a market for 'the real stuff', which will often sell fakes :)

I don't know if I will live long enough, but a video AI that can post movies of an interaction you describe in the prompts, that would be the bomb. Hell, even one now that could create a good cartoon out of it would be a lot of fun to play with and write stories through. And we are there, actually... except the processing power and censorship roadblocks currently needed to create these things prevents private desktop creation. But AI is accelerating like crazy, so it may come soon.

I would love to do some of my stories as reasonably accurate moving animations.
I have always liked broken things.

zergrush111

Quote from: luvyung4u on 10 February, 2025, 15:57:53AI-generated pics of children and CP could be a very good thing. Once the AI gets good enough to be indistinguishable from the real thing, it will be much easier to produce the fake stuff. The fake stuff will be better quality and more easily available than the real stuff. It could potentially dry up the market for real CP, which is a good thing.

I remember this being part of the discussion with lolicon. It didnt. It just increased the demand for the real thing. I guess if ai become 1 to 1 photo realistic, with realistic voice models and everything sure, I could see that displacing cp. Mainly because you could develop scenes that would otherwise be absolute holy grails. I am I guess more pessimistic that an ai can replicate a human that perfectly. I feel like there is subtle quirks to how a human functions that an ai is going to have a very hard time replicating. I am also assuming this since ai cp nowadays looks so insanely fake its actually annoying when it comes up.

I also wonder if you could create basically ai "trueblood" for pedos, could it be legal? If a studio came out and could verify it would it be fine? I mean, the models they would be training these ai frameworks on would be from real cp, that would be the issue i think most would have. Plus if the early ai models "poison" the later ones when they get trained on flooded fake cp this could end the entire project.
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SilentObserver

Another thing, I know this thread is about images but AI video generation is getting better and better.  All the points people in this thread have made I think go even stronger with videos. It's hard to find CP that isn't trash (though tbh I haven't looked all that hard) but being able to describe any scenario and then just watch it is mind-boggling. "Generate a video of two 12 year old virgin girls coming back to a hotel room from cheerleading practice and once they see a man on the bed they give him a super horny look and slowly start making out with each other and undressing, and slowly start to make sweet love with him as their passions are fulfilled for the first time in their lives." "No, now try again and make the girls even younger, and one asian and the other swedish." etc.
The possibilities are endless....

zergrush111

Quote from: SilentObserver on 11 February, 2025, 17:05:43Another thing, I know this thread is about images but AI video generation is getting better and better.  All the points people in this thread have made I think go even stronger with videos. It's hard to find CP that isn't trash (though tbh I haven't looked all that hard) but being able to describe any scenario and then just watch it is mind-boggling. "Generate a video of two 12 year old virgin girls coming back to a hotel room from cheerleading practice and once they see a man on the bed they give him a super horny look and slowly start making out with each other and undressing, and slowly start to make sweet love with him as their passions are fulfilled for the first time in their lives." "No, now try again and make the girls even younger, and one asian and the other swedish." etc.
The possibilities are endless....

Which sounds hot but to me feels so fake. I think for me thats what makes cp so much more enticing is there is a childishness to it, and with that an unpredictability. We can do this type of stuff to an extent with lolicon, or erotic writings, but at the end of the day it feels and looks so fake. Much like commerical mass produced porn, its scenarios and situations that feel very unrealistic.

I guess you could develop realistic ones but i would have to see how life like it is. I know with most laws we are going to prison regardless if they are real or not so it literally doesnt matter at the end of the day. Judge isnt going to care if "no one was harmed". Youll get charged the same. I wouldnt doubt if they charged you with each "victim" counting each generated child you made as a real one, so you end up with getting charged with both producing and distrupting. News headlines say you had "hundreds of victims" when in reality it was 0.
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SilentObserver

Quote from: zergrush111 on 14 February, 2025, 14:39:48Which sounds hot but to me feels so fake. I think for me thats what makes cp so much more enticing is there is a childishness to it, and with that an unpredictability. We can do this type of stuff to an extent with lolicon, or erotic writings, but at the end of the day it feels and looks so fake. Much like commerical mass produced porn, its scenarios and situations that feel very unrealistic.
I agree completely. Of the real photos/videos I have seen, I don't like when they try to emulate adult porn, and have the girl act all fake seductively with lots of makeup, etc. I like when it feels more organic and amateur, and as you said, with unpredictability and childishness. Of course the girl has to enjoy herself and not look like she's zoning out.
Again with AI, if it doesn't look right you can tweak the prompt: That looks so fake. Make the girls reaction genuine and childish. They are hesitant at first, this is a brand new experience for them. But once they realize the power of this new pleasurable feeling, they give in completely and acquiesce to their primal instincts. Show this in as much detail as possible.

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Deep_Blue

Quote from: boomer69 on 15 February, 2025, 13:50:07I like the real thing

        Me too.
        And I mean the "very real thing", not the "thing on a screen" ... :)
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Malt

Quote from: SilentObserver on 14 February, 2025, 15:36:21
Quote from: zergrush111 on 14 February, 2025, 14:39:48Which sounds hot but to me feels so fake. I think for me thats what makes cp so much more enticing is there is a childishness to it, and with that an unpredictability. We can do this type of stuff to an extent with lolicon, or erotic writings, but at the end of the day it feels and looks so fake. Much like commerical mass produced porn, its scenarios and situations that feel very unrealistic.
I agree completely. Of the real photos/videos I have seen, I don't like when they try to emulate adult porn, and have the girl act all fake seductively with lots of makeup, etc. I like when it feels more organic and amateur, and as you said, with unpredictability and childishness. Of course the girl has to enjoy herself and not look like she's zoning out.
Again with AI, if it doesn't look right you can tweak the prompt: That looks so fake. Make the girls reaction genuine and childish. They are hesitant at first, this is a brand new experience for them. But once they realize the power of this new pleasurable feeling, they give in completely and acquiesce to their primal instincts. Show this in as much detail as possible.

And if you tie a LLM with image generation (completely different algorithms). You can ask LLM to draft you the very prompt. It could be that the LLM passes this prompt to something like Stable Diffusion without showing it to you. You can have layers and layers of conversation with the LLM to generate purely fictional images and or videos for you. This already exists by the way just highly restricted/censored and running such a system locally would involve resources not available to the average Joe... At least for now.

olderman

To me its about the fantasy, so AI porn is actually a good thing, it just helps fuel my fantasy world. I don't mind if the images are fake...besides the way the tech is going, in a few more years it will be impossible to tell.

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User8737

I've seen an AI CP video recently and while I knew it was fake, the video was well done enough to get me going! I think we're closer to this than we all realize. However, it will be illegal, just like the real thing... WHICH SUCKS!

SilentObserver

In the last few months, AI videos have gotten much better. It's actually kind of dystopian, it can be hard to tell when they are real. I haven't seen any porn (cp or otherwise) generated using veo 3 but I'd imagine it to be next level..

Kope

Quote from: SilentObserver on 13 June, 2025, 14:56:23In the last few months, AI videos have gotten much better. It's actually kind of dystopian, it can be hard to tell when they are real. I haven't seen any porn (cp or otherwise) generated using veo 3 but I'd imagine it to be next level..
The porn isn't quite up to the same standard yet, since all the cutting-edge models have filters for that, but it's getting there, I've already seen on-topic material bordering on photorealistic. It's simply a matter of time now, because the genie is most certainly out of the bottle.
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caregiver

Quote from: SilentObserver on 13 June, 2025, 14:56:23In the last few months, AI videos have gotten much better. It's actually kind of dystopian, it can be hard to tell when they are real.

"hard to tell when they are real": that's why the police have said this is the main problem of AI pics & vids - their in-trays are getting flooded, pushing them away from the boys & girls they're trying to save.
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on the rocks

Someone will eventually train AI to sniff out real vs. fake CP.  So maybe in the near future, producers of real CP will go out of their way to make their shit look as fake as possible? :P

The on-topic imagery I've seen from AI thus far fails in one very specific, consistent way.  The people are too 'perfect'.  No one, not even a child, has skin so flawless and hair so regular.  There are no moles or scrapes or odd blemishes anywhere.  The child just removed underpants, but there's no subtle indentation left by the elastic like there is with a real child.  The minute artifacts of living in the real world are absent from AI generated kiddie porn.  Once you notice their absence, on topic AI is screaming obvious.

I think that's going to be a tough hurdle for AI to clear.  Especially if one wants multiple images from multiple angles of the same character.  The uncanny valley is a tough gap to cross.
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TooLittleTime

Very true, i consistently see that. Yet, still... recently there have been AI images I could not discern from reality. What I don't know is if there is some post processing going on to make it more 'realistic'?

Only thing I am sure of, is we will get there.
I have always liked broken things.