Do you watch Star Trek?

[Max1]

I answered yes but only the original. The others are ok but nothing beats the original

[hö]

Nope, I don't. Never have and probably never will get into that universe, never have been into that space stuff.

[on the rocks]

Actually I could swear they addressed this at one point. I might just be imagining it, but I don't think so because I can pretty vividly remember the doctor saying something about "kretarian" biology in specific reference to the horns. I'm surprised I can't remember specifically since I probably re-watch Voyager more than any of the series. I think there's probably an equal amount of me imagining that they addressed this though.

I was having trouble remembering it as well, so I dusted off a copy of the episode with Naomi's birth scene.
(season 2, episode 21 "Deadlock" in case anyone reading was interested.)

In the scene, Ensign Wildman is in labor in sick bay and some point, she start experiences excessive pain and The Doctor springs into action:
"The baby has shifted position and the exo-cranial ridges have lodged in the uterine wall. This is a rare complication, but it's been known to happen in human-Kretarian pregnancies."

A tense moment undercut by the fact that they can easily use the transporter to get Naomi out with both baby and mother safe and sound.  I'm left wondering why that isn't the default for childbirth in the 24th Century.  Just use the damn transporter!  Seems unnecessarily cruel to force women to squeeze babies through their pelvises when they have a safe, reliable and effective technology to bypass that literal shitshow for centuries at that point. No scars, no mess, no big deal.

[LikelyHuman]

A tense moment undercut by the fact that they can easily use the transporter to get Naomi out with both baby and mother safe and sound.  I'm left wondering why that isn't the default for childbirth in the 24th Century.  Just use the damn transporter!  Seems unnecessarily cruel to force women to squeeze babies through their pelvises when they have a safe, reliable and effective technology to bypass that literal shitshow for centuries at that point. No scars, no mess, no big deal.

Heh no kidding. I always wonder why they bothered to fly shuttles into the docking bay too.

Plus I can't be the only Star Trek fan to wonder... Do you think they still have toilets, or do they just transport it out to space?

[on the rocks]

Maybe Klingons would do that, but not Starfleet!
But it the transporter does sound like a stupendous constipation cure.

There is actually a commode on deck 1 of Enterprise D on TNG. If you're leaving the bridge to go to the turbolift, it would be to your left before you enter the turbolift.  You never see the door, though, because it is facing camera right.

[ijp]

A tense moment undercut by the fact that they can easily use the transporter to get Naomi out with both baby and mother safe and sound.  I'm left wondering why that isn't the default for childbirth in the 24th Century.  Just use the damn transporter!  Seems unnecessarily cruel to force women to squeeze babies through their pelvises when they have a safe, reliable and effective technology to bypass that literal shitshow for centuries at that point. No scars, no mess, no big deal.

Heh no kidding. I always wonder why they bothered to fly shuttles into the docking bay too.

Plus I can't be the only Star Trek fan to wonder... Do you think they still have toilets, or do they just transport it out to space?

I don't think they can use transporters internally. If they could Picard wouldn't need to go to specific surgeons for his heart, or surgery to move symbiotes between hosts. I don't know if it's an accuracy thing or an interference issue since it seems to lock on DNA signatures and all these circumstances involve mixed dna.

[LikelyHuman]

There is actually a commode on deck 1 of Enterprise D on TNG. If you're leaving the bridge to go to the turbolift, it would be to your left before you enter the turbolift.  You never see the door, though, because it is facing camera right.

I have always wondered what the door to the left of Picard's ready-room leads to.

[on the rocks]

At our office, we call it the "business center".

As for shuttlecraft, well sometimes you only have 2 or 3 people going somewhere and since those things can do low warp, it's more practical for short duration sojourns away from the mother ship.  Then when you get back, you gotta park it somewhere.

Besides, without shuttlecraft what would the crew do when the technobabble means they can't use the transporter?

[tmbrwulf]

Noami was born from a species of plot convenience that allows her to grow up fast in a short amount of time so we only have as few shots of the baby as possible.

[InnocentOne]

I used to but can't any more. I used to fantasize about about William Shatner being my grandpa or kidnapping me lol

[on the rocks]

Bumping this thread because the second episode of Strange New Worlds this season really spoke to me as a pedo.

Now on the surface, what they were doing was all allegory for the US Military's "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy regarding gay people serving from Clinton to Obama mixed with a little modern commentary on various transgender-related politics.  But I could readily sub my own sexual preferences into the monologues by Lt. Commander Una Chin-Riley and her lawyer friend Neera.  Especially when Una talked about having to hide her genetic modifications from everyone out of fear of irrational violence from other people in the community.
I am certain pedos were the furthest thing from the writers' minds, what with various US States passing weird laws about transsexual minors.  But that's the beauty of art; it's open to interpretation.

In Star Trek canon, the Millennium era was dominated by the so-called Eugenics Wars where nation-states used genetic engineering to create super-soldiers to duke it out for world domination.  Millions upon millions died and when the dust settled, editing the humanoid genome was outlawed on Earth.  That prohibition was inherited by the Federation when it was created and still enforced through all of the Star Trek series.  So the prejudice against the genetically modified is rooted in very real tragedy.  Much like how our own various child abuse laws are intended to prosecute genuine acts of sexual barbarism against children that do happen.  But like the Federation's genetic engineering ban, those child abuse laws have become over-reaching and cause unintended consequences.  They have both encouraged vigilantes to seek out extra-judicial actions against those suspected of being non-conforming to the law in question.  So otherwise good people who just want to be who they are must try and blend in and hide the truth about themselves.

Making that connection between that plotline and my own life was like wrapping myself in a fuzzy blanket fresh out of the drier on a cold, rainy day.  It was one of the best experiences I've had watching new Star Trek in a while.  And that's saying a lot because Picard season 3 was hellah fun.

Definitely recommend.  Season 2, episode 2; "Ad Astra per Aspera"

[FindingRest]

Bumping this thread because the second episode of Strange New Worlds this season really spoke to me as a pedo.

Now on the surface, what they were doing was all allegory for the US Military's "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy regarding gay people serving from Clinton to Obama mixed with a little modern commentary on various transgender-related politics.  But I could readily sub my own sexual preferences into the monologues by Lt. Commander Una Chin-Riley and her lawyer friend Neera.  Especially when Una talked about having to hide her genetic modifications from everyone out of fear of irrational violence from other people in the community.
I am certain pedos were the furthest thing from the writers' minds, what with various US States passing weird laws about transsexual minors.  But that's the beauty of art; it's open to interpretation.

In Star Trek canon, the Millennium era was dominated by the so-called Eugenics Wars where nation-states used genetic engineering to create super-soldiers to duke it out for world domination.  Millions upon millions died and when the dust settled, editing the humanoid genome was outlawed on Earth.  That prohibition was inherited by the Federation when it was created and still enforced through all of the Star Trek series.  So the prejudice against the genetically modified is rooted in very real tragedy.  Much like how our own various child abuse laws are intended to prosecute genuine acts of sexual barbarism against children that do happen.  But like the Federation's genetic engineering ban, those child abuse laws have become over-reaching and cause unintended consequences.  They have both encouraged vigilantes to seek out extra-judicial actions against those suspected of being non-conforming to the law in question.  So otherwise good people who just want to be who they are must try and blend in and hide the truth about themselves.

Making that connection between that plotline and my own life was like wrapping myself in a fuzzy blanket fresh out of the drier on a cold, rainy day.  It was one of the best experiences I've had watching new Star Trek in a while.  And that's saying a lot because Picard season 3 was hellah fun.

Definitely recommend.  Season 2, episode 2; "Ad Astra per Aspera"

I've never seen Star Trek before, but what you've described does sound interesting. Especially the Eugenics Wars you described. I feel this is much how real life prejudice is formed. Hate bred from tragedy. The victims are now the villains. It's sad because I feel like many people like myself have devolved in this way. Instead of learning from mistakes, we gave into fear in order to avoid reliving the pain we experienced earlier in life. However all that is done is creating more pain for the future generations who had nothing to do with it. Now they must bear the brunt of our failures and unfortunately may pass that hate to those that come after them, and so on and so forth until someone decides to take a stand against it. However, even in rebelling, we must be careful not to revert back to that initial source of hate. It's a scary thing that I've read about, lived through, and now fear it will happen again. Only this time, like you mentioned, it's with pedo/hebephiles.

[on the rocks]

I've never seen Star Trek before, but what you've described does sound interesting. Especially the Eugenics Wars you described.

I should note that as of yet, the Eugenics Wars have never been portrayed on screen in any Star Trek series or film.  It's all backstory they hint at numerous times throughout the franchise.

[nyarla]

 No!

Star Wars 4 life.

[OatmilkAlligator]

I love Star Trek, but will admit I haven't seen them all.  My favorite series: Voyager, DS9/TNG (tied), Picard

One of these days I'll watch Lower Decks.