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Started by dreamer, 20 November, 2014, 22:47:02

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dreamer

20 November, 2014, 22:47:02 Last Edit: 15 December, 2014, 02:33:54 by Chairman
I think this guy is awesome.

[links removed - Chairman]

Harkness

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21 November, 2014, 01:40:54
Why, though, do you think he's awesome?  The articles both talk about how he (supposedly) forced sex on his teenage stepdaughter, the second of which has that being her own phrasing, which would tell me that, assuming he did have sex with her, it wasn't consensual in any way...is that really something that we should be impressed by?  A man who would rape someone, let alone their own stepdaughter?  If you have other reasons to think he's awesome, please share...but the links provided don't show me any reason why he should be considered amazing.
"And I'm out here, waiting
I don't understand what you want me to be
It's the dark you're hating, it's not who I am
But I know that it's all that you see"  - Savatage "Not What you See"

dreamer

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21 November, 2014, 04:24:11 Last Edit: 21 November, 2014, 04:29:34 by dreamer
He rules a country and (probably) boinked a kid. Awesome. He is maybe the world's No. 1 ranked kiddy lover.

Ok, yeah, he may not have been nice to his daughter but it's hard to tell what was forced and what she is making up. Did she actually object at the time?

I will say it's crucial for me that it's his stepdaughter and not his actual biological kid.

BabyBoyLove

#3
21 November, 2014, 09:02:01
Quote from: dreamer on 21 November, 2014, 04:24:11
I will say it's crucial for me that it's his stepdaughter and not his actual biological kid.
And do enlighten me, why this makes it any better ?
Death: THERE ARE BETTER THINGS IN THE WORLD THAN ALCOHOL, ALBERT.
Albert: Oh, yes, sir. But alcohol sort of compensates for not getting them.

AWAWAW

#4
21 November, 2014, 14:48:56
If the allegations made against him are true and he did in fact rape his stepdaughter, a child at the time, then I can find nothing worth idolizing about this man. Quite the opposite in fact, as that is exactly the kind of behavior that we as a community consider abhorrent. I would suggest that it is very misguided to think he is 'awesome' and the worlds 'No. 1 ranked kiddy lover', even if the latter term is somewhat laughable.

Also, when posting links it is important that you state whether the link is safe for other members to visit on Tor, if scripts should be off and give us some idea as to the content of the links.
A boy is a magical creature. You can lock him out of your workshop, but you can't lock him out of your heart. You can get him out of your study, but you can't get him out of your mind - Alan Beck

dreamer

#5
22 November, 2014, 18:57:32 Last Edit: 22 November, 2014, 19:09:34 by dreamer
Sorry. I'll have to be more careful about giving the link info.

These ones are just articles. No porn or anything. They don't require JavaScript.

Anyway, about Mr. Ortega, if he actually raped (used force to have sex with) his daughter, then I agree he sucks. I haven't read that much about this case. My reading was that she accuses him of rough underage sex, but it's not clear whether she objected. Can anyone find some quotes and figure this out?

dreamer

#6
22 November, 2014, 19:13:12
QuoteAnd do enlighten me, why this makes it any better ?

I don't want to turn this thread into an incest debate, so I sent you a message.

BabyBoyLove

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22 November, 2014, 20:14:27
Quote from: dreamer on 22 November, 2014, 19:13:12
QuoteAnd do enlighten me, why this makes it any better ?

I don't want to turn this thread into an incest debate, so I sent you a message.
Well we seem to differ in opinion on most things, so again no surprise here.

I'd argue that when he took on the role as her stepfather, and subsequently decided to fuck her, he was already committing incest. Incest does not require a blood relationship. It's affinity rather than consanguinity.

I'll leave you with the following quote, to which I have nothing to add.
QuoteIt takes a special kind of blinkered wishful thinking to ignore the financial, political and moral corruption of Daniel Ortega, the comandante who became a caudillo. But history shows us that, in the treasured name of anti-imperialism, anything is possible.
Death: THERE ARE BETTER THINGS IN THE WORLD THAN ALCOHOL, ALBERT.
Albert: Oh, yes, sir. But alcohol sort of compensates for not getting them.

dreamer

#8
22 November, 2014, 23:08:57
It seems like he didn't fuck her when she was 11 but only at 15. Before that he was only fondling and jacking off.

My interest in this is now reduced. It's hardly pedo.

From what I could tell by reading more, it seems like she also accuses him of using force. That sucks.

Daniel Ortega is not awesome after all.

Chen

#9
14 December, 2014, 02:56:53
I'm not sure this thread belongs here.

Chairman

#10
15 December, 2014, 02:35:00
If you're going to post links, let us know if they're Tor-safe at the very least, and cut and paste the article if you're feeling generous.  Just posting two links with no information is poor opsec and I've removed them as such.

Beyond that, this fellow is not 'awesome', as just reading the headlines should tell any of us.

Please be careful to keep the ethos of the community in mind.
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